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Whitney Houston didn't deserve to have the flag raised at
half last for her passing. Sorry, but there more deserving
people who have passed before her (military service men)
that haven't had the flag at half mast after dying for the
county.
-US Veteran USMC
So this is basically what I got out of this: Unless your a
member of some branch of the military, your not important
enough to have the flag lowered in your memory when you
pass?
I thought America was meant to stand for equality: What
happened to "With Liberty and Justice for ALL?
"Yet in the code book it states the Flag is for all citizens
of the United States of America. For the people not just
service men and women. Let's face it she had made her
contributions."
With that said, should we lower flags for every American's
death? We all make our contributions paying taxes
Yet in the code book it states the Flag is for all citizens
of the United States of America. For the people not just
service men and women. Let's face it she had made her
contributions.
Is it election year, come on Governor, you've insulted most
of the country!
I believe that Ms. Houston did indeed earn this honor
because of the manner that she sang the National Anthem
during the Persian Gulf war. Our National Anthem was sung
so well, with so much pride, joy, belief, that it became a
billboard single. It has never been done since. Whitney
Houston may not have been perfect. She made her mistakes,
America is not perfect either. We have had presidents
embarrass us a country, we have people starving, losing jobs
and homes, and yet we bail out the banks. I'm not saying
that every celebrity should have the honor of having the
flags lowered but Whitney because of the manner that she
stood up and for just a moment represented our Anthem in a
manner that I believe will never be done again. Did deserve
this honor. Since then, we have been humiliated with
celebrities that don't even know the words. She loved her
country, Love her back at least in death, and I don't care
how angry anyone is, a man to disrespect any of our nations
flags, the very flags that his child died for, is a plain
dishonor. Who have we become as Americans? Does the hatred,
envy, jealousy, anger, and vengeances ever end? Forgive and
Love thy neighbor. What are we leaving for our children?
Celebrities in the entertainment industry should not share
the same honors in death as a man/woman in the service who
has died defending our great nation. It insults and
belittles the brave souls lost.
Regarding preceding comment:
I don't think anyone suggested flags lowered for all
soldiers or VETERANS. The flag code directs flags to be
lowered for servicemen and women who die in the line of
active duty. Veterans don't rate a Whitney Houston style
state-wide half-mast. This is true even if the veteran was
a recipient of the Congressional Medal of Honor. So no,
flags won't fly at half-mast everyday if the proper protocol
is being followed. Yet somehow Whitney Houston deserved an
exception.
No, thinking realistically, you cannot lower flag for
military soldiers who have died or Veterans. That would
mean the flag would at half-mast everyday.
Really, think realistically here with your head and not
emotions.
i loved loved , was a big fan of Whitney's. How
and what age she died had nothing to do with it.
I totally agree with the article.
I see some posters cannot see the whole as is the
problem we have with politics. Flag lowered at half mast
for no entertainers, writers, sports stars, . This honor
is for political nat. figures, you local ones, memorial
services like WTC, major nat. deaths like WTC, etc.
I see people saying well at least Elvis served inn the
military, Umm, no. He was an entertainer who died by his
own on drugs, on his toilet. Frank Sinatra, NJ flag was
lowered half-mast. Um should have no. You cannot pick and
choose entertainers. Sorry.
Well said. And I think you for saying it as you did. I am
definitely linking this to my FB page.
While Whitney Houston had an amazing voice and was a
wonderful entertainer, I have to say that, in my opinion,
Gov. Christie was wrong to have the flags in New Jersey
lowered to half staff yesterday in her honor. I've always
thought this was an honor reserved for real heroes.
I have to begin by stating that I don't want, in any way, to
take away from the passing of a great singer. Whitney
Houston, without a doubt, had a voice that we hope imitates
that of an angel. Her achievements in the music industry
will never be forgotten and we may never encounter another
human being with such a remarkable talent. I, for one,
enjoyed her music. It's become part of my life. To hear any
of her songs is to travel magically in time. It's as if each
song can take us to a place in our past that molded us in
becoming who we are today. There is no question in any one's
mind that she was truly blessed with a talent that we all
enjoyed.
My dilemma, confusion, criticism, and even anger falls upon
the mere thought of lowering our flag for the passing of a
gifted singer. The only thing, in my opinion, between this
talented singer and our flag is the fact that she's an
American and she was the best at singing the National
Anthem.
The original intent of lowering the flag at half staff was
to honor those in high positions in federal or state
offices. Throughout the years it has symbolized a lot of
different things and among them are: valor, justice,
vigilance, perseverance, dignity, heroism, pride and
respect.
The loss of a talented singer should not be a motive to
lower our flag especially when this particular person not
only was a talented singer but a drug user and abuser. To
fly our flag at half staff for Whitney Houston would be a
slap in the face to all of our fallen heroes that have died
for our country and continue to die for us with honor. It
would be disrespectful and disgraceful; once again, in my
opinion.
Honestly, I am disappointed in Americans calling this out!
Half Staff is NOT just for people that served in the
military, but it is to honor those that have had a great
positive influence on society and to show respect for that
person and to their family in this way, honoring them.
OUR FLAG STANDS FOR FREEDOM! The SAME freedom all of those
in our military have fought for. In saying that, to show
respect to someone that not only our nation loved, but the
world. It shows how our freedom can be openly expressed and
extended using one of the most powerful and meaningful
symbols in the world, the American flag.
I am encouraged by her life that she NEVER sold out. She
fought her demons and they fought hard. But she NEVER took
it out on anyone else, and her influence and love that she
gave through her music never faltered even though she was
attacked on all sides. How easy do you think it would be to
live in the business that she did and still have her
integrity? Yes, she had her problems, but soldiers never
leave the battle field unwounded. There is always a price.
She paid it. And she let her love shine through to the very
end.
How stingy of people to hoard the American Flag to only a
select group of people. Our flag stands for freedom, for
unity, and for each and every one of us that lived the best
we could as Americans.
This particular American not only reached out to America,
but to the world. Even in her death, there was dignity.
Showing love. The love of God. Showing loyalty, friendship,
compassion, faithfulness and just pure love. She had her
problems. So what. America has problems. But through all of
her cracks, the light of God and Love shined out.
At the end of the day, a State showed their honor and pride
for someone that honored and gave so much to all of the US
and the world.
America is showing her the respect and pride she deserves.
We could all learn a little something about the Whitney Half
Staff.
I am so tired of folks dictating to me what to believe and
what not to believe. These are the same folks that would
have me believe that anyone who wears a flag pendant is a
patriot or a Christian if she wears a cross and that all
soldiers who die in combat are heroes and somehow more
saintly than the average man on the street. I am sometimes
appalled at the funeral turnout and pomp and ceremony for
firemen, policemen and others as if their service to country
is more important than the lowly convenience store clerk who
is shot dead minding the store for $8 an hour so you can
have a loaf of bread, milk, scratch tickets or cigarettes.
We are so melodramatic in this country. We don't want to
lower the flag - which, BTW, symbolizes grief and mourning
and national tragedy according to United States Flag store
definition and which says absolutely nothing about it being
solely for those who serve their country, elected officials,
etc. - Whitney Houston, but it will be lowered for the
likes of Bill Clinton who as President and a married man,
allowed an aide to such his weewee and then lied about it.
Everyone who feels disrespected because the flag was lowered
for Whitney should take a long hard look in the mirror. I'm
a female Vietnam Era Vet and all I get is disrespected every
day by the likes of Rick Santorum and Liz Trotta who think
that as a woman I'm not up to the task of protecting their
backsides if push comes to shove. Regardless of whether you
agree or not, Whitney Houston was an international treasure
and we should be glad that we produced her. Get over your
self righteous selves.
Many public faux pas (racial slurs, etc) have led to public
apologies. I would like to see a public apology for this
insult to our military, firefighters, law enforcement--our
real heroes who endanger themselves every day to protect and
save others lives. Sue, GA
The symbol of a half-masted flag has become eroded and
trivialized because too many government officials have
stepped outside the Flag Code (4 USC Chapter 1) and created
their own rules or overused their government authority to
exercise their own personal flag protocol. The results we
see today are flags being half-masted so routinely and for
so many reasons, that it reduces the gesture to something so
insignificant that we no longer pause to notice tribute
being paid. Where is the remembrance if no one knows why
the flags are lowered? Our known soldiers are becoming
unknown soldiers by virtue of the degradation of the
half-mast gesture. They served silently, only to have
their humble moment of honor overshadowed by celebrities who
served popularly. A decade from now, most people will never
remember flags being lowered for a Marine named Corporal
Kevin J. Reinhard of Woodbridge, NJ. But they will always
remember Whitney Houston from Newark because she is a super
celebrity, and thanks to this controversy, they will
associate flags being lowered in her honor
I agree that lowering of the flag should be reserved for
those who served the country and those who sacrificed their
lives. We should not degrade the meaning of this gesture.
Celebrities are given their own accolades and it should stay
that way.
Whitney Houston performed on the stage. She sang. She did
not save lives, she did not serve her country in a
patriotic, civic or notable way. It is appalling, and an
insult to veterans and those who have died for our country,
that flags were lowered to half-staff. Certainly, millions
enjoyed her voice and loved to hear her sing but that's what
she was -- a singer, not someone worthy of such a meaningful
gesture.
All this outrage over Whitney but nobody seemed to care when
Joe Paterno had the flag lowered for him. Interesting, and
even reading this comments he isn't even mentioned... he had
his demons as well.
NJLawman.com Reply: Read it again. He was
mentioned.
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie will pay tribute to Whitney
Houston by ordering flags to be flown at half-staff during
her funeral service on Saturday.
I always like and will continue listening to her beautiful
songs, but What Governor Chris Christie did lowering the
U.S. Flags half-mast was very wrong. I am a decorated war
Veteran from the war of Vietnam and to me his action was a
slapped to my face, to our veteran of all wars and ours
soldier who still sacrificing their life fighting still in
Afghanistan. The lowering of our flag is reserve to falling
heroes, President and senators who had passed away. The
Governor of New Jersey owed all of us veterans, soldiers,
and falling heroes an apology. I lost my best friend in
Vietnam when mines blow up his entire body in pieces and we
had to collect every piece so that his family could give him
a decent funeral. His family ends up having to bury my
friend without being able to see him due to broken body. His
funeral service was with a close casket.
How dare you slapped us veteran of all wars past and present
presidents and senators??? These honors were made for those
that gave their life and service for our country our nation.
Would you dare to look in the face of those soldiers from
Iraq and Afghanistan, the WW1 WW2 veterans, Korean and
Vietnam; this is the real heroes.
All Veterans should demand that New Jersey Governor Chris
apologized to us veterans, service soldiers and their
families for his action.
People who do good things should be rewarded for it. The
flag was for the military. Celebrities have their own
ways of honoring their own with money and awards and that's
how it should be.
Looking back now I can see a far backwards we have come and
it is not good.
-82nd
I think those of us who agree that what Christie has done
twice now is wrong and illegal: once for Houston and once
for saxophonist Clemmons (and who knows who else he'll
consider) should start a petition that politicians cannot
decide -at their discretion- when this honor is bestowed.
For those of you who think it should 'just be ignored' -
that's the typical apathy that's infecting this great
country. That's the typical 'gray area' that people
consistently produce. There is a right and a wrong. There
are regulations as to how the flag MUST (not "should") fly
and WHEN it MUST fly half-mast. Nowhere do the regulations
state they are at some politician's discretion to follow.
And that is the bottom line. Christie has been wrong twice
now. Clemmons was wrong. This is an abuse of power. Period.
And if these politicians do not want to uphold the laws for
which they serve office, they should resign.
We loved & cried for Whitney's passing,,,,,Please do not
start something by lowering the flag. This is an honor &
should be used as in the past.
The over the top worship of celebrities in this country is
disgusting.
I think it is ok to lower the flag if the individual
celebrity or not-if they have made a great contribution in
any field.
What ever maybe thought of her personal issues Miss Houston
was more than just a "pop star". What many people do not
know is all of the charitable work she did. She performed
free concerts for returning troops and their families. She
even m...ade HBO, who broadcasted the concert, unscramble
their broadcast so it could be watched for free. 100% her
proceeds from her 2001 Star Spangled Banner release were
donated to the NYPD and FDNY relief funds. She did concerts
all over the world to raise money and in support of may
charities and organizations ranging from Hale House, Rainbow
House, The Children's Defense Fund, University Hospital of
Newark NJ ( which named its Pediatric Special Care Unit
after her because of all of her giving), and many more.
While the media chooses to focus so much on the negative,
Whitney Houston will be honored and remembered for the many
things she did for others. She did her best to make sure
that these vets and their service were not forgotten.
SPC Mckee, Joshua - I agree with you - this was dead
wrong!!!
The good, Whitney was a great singer, her songs put a smile
and some happiness on many faces in the World.
THE BAD - Whitney did everything that was low-live! She
should have been arrested for ruining her child's life,
exposing her to years of drug stupor - how did child
service, the law look the other way? ... money??!!
Unfortunately the values in the USA are in miserable shape!!
We celebrate the bad, ugly, rotten, illegal, offensive, and
drug riddled. We tolerate to be offended by foul language,
idolize rappers who use the worst slurs and spits, miss or
are afraid to speak up when lowlifes ridicule and offend us,
our values are so screwed up, that it has become "cool" if
you can talk about your "jail time and arrest" - Considering
the above reality - how can we think straight what is wrong
or right?? How can we expect that people know the meaning /
value / respect of a National Flag?? Is moral even lower in
NJ
As a service member currently serving in Afghanistan, I
don't see a problem with the flag being lowered. Whitney
provided the nation one of the best national anthems ever
when we were at war. That was her contribution to military
service when she sung her heart out. I'm ashamed of all the
people complaining about this wonderful gesture that was
done by Gov Christie (I'm a Democrat). Shame on the
hypocrites for criticizing her about her drug use. Let those
without sin throw the first stone...
-SSG M
A flag at half mast is not for celebrities. This governor is
abusing his authority and disrespecting U S soldiers across
the globe.
The lowering of the flag to half staff should only be used
in mourning for Military and Heads of State.
I absolutely agree that Gov. Christie's lowering of both the
state and national flags was an error in judgement. Those
who serve their country in the military or national elective
office should be accorded that honor not those who win
GRAMMAY AWARDS! This act cheapens an event that should be
reserved for those in harm's way!
I would just like to say, I could not agree more... I am In
the ARMY and currently serving in Afghanistan. My father
served 20 years in the Air Force. I usually tend to keep my
mouth shut about stuff like protesters and anything like
that, but I couldn’t do that this time. One thing my father
told me before I joined the service was “I want you to
realize one thing. Not everyone is going to like you for
what you do and some people might say things, but I want you
to remember you fight for their right to be able to say
those thing and they’re right to feel that way.” I believe
this is wrong and I agree when you said not everybody gets
every Honor. And as for the guy who is talking about when
Nixon asked Americans to lower their flag for Elvis Presley,
at least Elvis Presley served in the military. That’s all I
have to say thank you for your time and also for standing up
and saying something.
-SPC. Mckee, Joshua
In my humble opinion I loved John Wayne. I remember the
sentiments when he died but even though we commemorated a
special coin in his memory we did not dip the flag.
Way to go , I could not have said it better I AGREE 100%
PLEASE no Grammy for Governor Christie, he was not "acting"
in AMERICA'S best interest
No one who has never been in harm's way defending or
protecting our country should have the power to lower the
flag. The power to do so should lie with the highest
elected official who has served in that capacity.
Where was this outrage when Richard Nixon back in 1977 asked
all American's to lower their flags to half mast when Elvis
Presley died???????????
I believe 100% in what you said and it does need to stop.
I agree 100% with your opinion and hope this NEVER happens
again in NJ or any other state
There are many other ways that NJ can honor her. Lowering t
he flag to half staff is a huge slap in the face. Will it be
flown half staff for me when I die? Of course not, because I
am not a famous celebrity, however I am a vet- a lucky one
who's still alive- but no one will ever know when I die,
this I am sure of.
Big Jon Stossell " Give me a break". stamp! Just blew
his chance for future presidential run. Get your priorities
straight Mr. Christie ! Our military men and women are
far better people than Whitney Houston.... Give me a
break!!!
I agree, not everyone gets every honor. As a Vietnam
veteran, and the son of a WW2 disabled veteran, I "salute"
your article.
I too believe that our flag is one of our Nations greatest
honors that should be reserved for those who have given the
greatest sacrifice for America and Americans. If the
Governor insists on raising a flag at half mast than maybe
he should use the flag he is really representing, the flag
of New Jersey. Leave the decisions about the American flag
to America's Commander and Chief, the President of the
United States of America. The President should be the only
one who can decide this.
Thank You
-Greg Bangle
As an individual who has family members who are members of
the military, police, and teachers, I am incredibly offended
by Christie's decision. What made it worse is the more he
tried to defend it, the worse his answers became. Just say
"she is a daughter of NJ." Not that it makes it right
regardless. Just unreal.
This was absolute B.S.
I thank you for stating this so clearly. I agree and am
disgusted that we are honoring these celebrities with
something they do not deserve.
I honor all the men and women who defend this country and
put their lives on the line for this country. But do not
ever thing you are a better human being because of it.
Whitney gave a lot to this world through her music and
whether you liked her style...she was a great human being
who gave joy to the world. There is no flag on her casket.
No 21 gun salute...they just lower the flag to a child born
in NJ who rose to be a world star...honor her as all our
days are numbered.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS4v431Mlak&feature=youtu.be
This world has become more confused in it's attitude toward
words. When I was a young child my mother told me that
'sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never
hurt me". This was true but has been replaced with a lie-
that words are more important. Mean words are now a criminal
act, killing someone is a crime, but saying bad words in the
act makes it a 'greater crime'. The Japanese government near
WW-I formed the 'thought police' and criminalized people for
their association with others as it was assumed their
thoughts matched the thoughts of others. The United States
is there now. Only God can bless America and only God can
save it.
Richard Hoover- Michigan (former member NJ National Guard)
First off I m retired Army...If Soldiers who do not return
from war do not get the flag flown at half mast, then why
should a singer who had everything handed to her who was
hooked on drugs supposed to be some kind of roll model) and
more than likely died from them get a honor like this. She
did nothing for that flag. She surely did not die for that
flag or defend it. Soldiers who die in combat are worthy of
this honor but we do not see it. This governor from NJ is
an idiot to render this honor to those not deserving. I am
sure he has never served!
I agree, Chris Christie just dropped several notches in my
book. In 2003 my brother-in-law was killed on the
battlefield in Afghanistan; he did not receive a Grammy for
his sacrifice. What we received was the folded flag after it
had been displayed "in Mourning." Moreover, simply being
able to sing the national anthem should not entitle one to
such an honor. @ Ann Coulter, I trust that you agree with
me, otherwise, you too will be demoted!
Well said! Where is the outrage in the media?? I guarantee
if a journalist were to go door to door anywhere in this
country, you would get the same response as stated in this
article, nine times out of ten. This act is a disgrace to
all of the true fallen heroes throughout this country's
history! Shameful!
This makes me sick!! What did this lady do for our
country? She sang the national anthem once. What about
the men and women who give their lives for the freedom to
keep that song sacred???
They are the only ones I will ever lower my flag for...
I agree that this was done to win votes. The flag should
not be lowered for Whitney Houston. Where is the outrage
about the drugs? If she had been shot there would be
outrage. Putting drugs in her hands was the same thing. My
flag/our flag should NOT be lowered MOST DEFINITELY for this
entertainer.
At first I was confused after reading this post. I
think it's a good idea my payers and thoughts go out to the
family.
Man, I can't WAIT to move out of this f!@#% state!
Could not have been said better.
~mb~
I don't agree with the lowering of the flag for any
celebrity at all. It doesn't matter if it was Whitney
Houston or if it was Elvis Presley. It is wrong and it is
disgraceful to those that have earned that honor. I know of
soldiers, young 19 year old kids that came back home in body
bags from war and my state did not lower the flag for them.
Mrs. Houston was a singer/celebrity/drug addict/ What about
that says American hero? What about that says American
servant? NOTHING!
I agree completely!!! The more this honor is missed used the
less value it holds. It absolutely should be used as it was
designed!
Here's another suggestion. Have the Great Governor encourage
the family to 'respect' the public/fan base millions who
want to show their respect by attending the memorial that
was 'suppose to be' at the Prudential Center. After all,
the millions of dollars in sales (past/future) from the
public was given to the Star as a sign of respect and
appreciation. She was always 'personal' with the public on
performance day. Is that fair to have a 'private'
homecoming/funeral when the masses want or perhaps deserve
to give respect in her departure.
That was done to generate votes. The Governor as alienated
people in public service and now he is pandering to
minorities. Despicable. How insulting to black people, and
how insulting to those of us on the job and people in the
military.
Additionally, a Gross misuse of power within leadership. The
flag flown upside down is a sign of 'distress'; this topic
alone is distressing to even hear it. Show you support for
this great singer another way...but not with the proud and
age-old respected tradition that is mostly indigenous to our
Armed Forces, and Public Servants.
Does the NJ Governor have any military service? Case closed.
He lacks sensitivity to this issue. In fact, if he did his
homework, perhaps he could of asked the President of the
United States/Commander in Chief for his blessings. After
all, the President did acknowledge and give his condolences
Thank You From The Bottom of My Heart!
Signed....A Singer/ Female Veteran of 8 Years Active Duty
Service to my Country. God Bless Those Service members who
are still Serving. In that case, lets just fly the flag for
their continuous service and hazardous duty.
-Sgt (Veteran) Cousar
Should be no question. The answer is no. A speech, tribute,
fine but the flag? no. It is reserved for people that help
the U.S. and community. She died a drug addict; what message
do we send our children
I am in complete agreement with this article. I have several
(deceased) family members who were either in the military or
police departments. We (fortunately) learned how to treat
our flag respectfully. While it goes without saying that Ms.
Houston was a terrific singer, she held no public office,
was never in the military and does NOT deserve that honor
which should be kept in its highest esteem. While I once
thought well of Mr. Christie, now I think him nothing more
than a media-hound, seeking ONLY to please celebrities.
Wrong!Wrong!Wrong!
I am a serving member of our military on my 6th deployment
and I have no issue with this. The governor simply
appreciated her talents and recognized the impact she had on
her community and state on a global basis. Nothing wrong
with showing due respect as such. If anything instead of
criticizing this decision it should be looked upon as an
opportunity to demonstrate the enormous talents but also the
magnitude of what greatness could have occurred with better
life decisions. I am truly appreciative of the support of
fellow Americans and I have family, friends, and loved one’s
who have died but do not use our service to negatively speak
on the actions of others when their intent is good hearted.
It tears me up to see what I am fighting for is senseless
bickering over these petty matters rather than issues of
greater consequence.
Mr. Presley at least served in our military, Ms. Houston did
not. Lowering the flag for him was not right, lowering the
flag for her is totally wrong.
I personally believe the flag should have a quarter mast and
a 3 quarters mast as well as the half mast. the half mast to
honor anyone who dies giving up their life protecting
another such as police firemen military personal and yes
even a common citizen who runs into a burning building to
try to save someone trapped inside. the 3 quarters mast to
be flown only during wartime to remind us of the lives lost
each day to protect our freedoms. and the 1 quarter mast to
honor anyone else whom the government feels may be deserving
of the honor but not as much of an honor as someone who dies
while in service. Anyway that's just my take on the subject.
God Bless America
I commend Governor Christie for his decision. It is so
dismaying to read such negative comments on this. I never
heard the outcries when the flags were lowered for Sinatra
and Presley (keeping in mind he also was drug addicted!
While there is no one who is without fault, we never seem to
want to focus on the many positives of a person! And for
those who never took the time to learn more about Ms.
Houston, not only was she a great artist, she was also a
wonderful philanthropist. May she rest in peace!
Lowering the flag should be reserved for those who gave
their life for their country. Period. End of story.
Disgrace to those who have served!!!!!!
-U.S. Air Force Veteran
Why should the flag be at half-mast for Whitney? Did I miss
that she was in the military? I am very offended that the
Governor took such action. I know the flag is suppose to
honor our military whom died in action. This is a slap in
the face to our military.
Has Governor Christie taken leave of his mind. Is he going
to be there to welcome home our living solders comes home,
NO! Why should we honor a drug addict? Do we want our youth
to follow his actions? Houston is not a hero! Gov. Christie
is a disgrace!! Whom is Christie trying to impress? Does
Christie not have anything better to do?
I so agree with you. My nephew died in Afghanistan and the
flag was not flown at half-mast. What makes an actor or
actress more important than those that have given there
lives in the name of Freedom and our country. I am a
veteran of the US Army and I am greatly offended by the
Governor's actions.
Simply put flags should only be lowered for those who have
perished in the line of duty.
New Jersey should hide their heads in shame, my hubby was in
service 25 years, he did not get flag at half mast when he
past, what's wrong with this picture.
Absolutely wrong to fly the US flag at half Staff for
Whitney Houston!!! What a dishonor to our Presidents and
servicemen who have died serving our country .NO celebrity
should ever have this honor unless they died SERVING their
country !!! HORRIFIC!!!
Gov. Christie I guess you never will understand what the
flag is for.
I am very disgusted by this action. These people although
talented are not to be idolized.
-US Navy Veteran Retired
Governor Christie!!! What were you thinking!!! Pretty soon
we will just need to leave the flags at half-mast! Should
only be lowered for Heroes not drug addicts. What are we
teaching our children!!!
Gov. Christie has made a grave mistake in signing this
order. This act will dishonor the men and women this
honorable act is intended for. If he chooses to lower a
flag, let it be the state flag which he represents. Not the
National Colors.
Totally agree.
Mr. Christie should definitely know better. What an insult
to our heroes and dignitaries.
While he never joined any political party, Elvis Presley's
political views were somewhat mixed. During the early 1960s
he was an outspoken admirer of liberal President John F.
Kennedy. He later confessed to "weeping openly" at the news
of Kennedy's death.
Later in life, however, he made a more conservative move on
the political spectrum. He began singing the praises of
President Richard Nixon, and his right-wing streak
culminated in a visit to the White House in December 1970.
During the visit, Presley was photographed giving the
President a handgun, which was (for security reasons)
presented but not given.
Presley spoke of his admiration for Nixon, revealed his
disgust at the hippie counterculture, spoke disparagingly of
The Beatles (he said that having earned their money in
America, they had then left for England to promote
"anti-American" feelings), fervently expressed his
patriotism, offered to infiltrate and go undercover in
left-wing hippie groups, asked to be appointed a federal
narcotics agent, and even hugged the president twice.
Nixon, for his part, was not sure if Presley was serious or
not, but granted his request and made him an honorary
federal agent. Nixon said he was equally parts bewildered
and amused by the encounter, thanked Presley for his
support, and the picture of the duo has become one of the
most famous photos taken in the White House. On Presley's
death in 1977, the former president asked Americans to lower
their flags all over the country as a mark of respect.
Government agencies should not be involved in entertainment
business.
They need to stop this, its wrong Christie should know
better.
Thanks.
-Don Creel
I think the Governor did what he felt was right; it's his
choice. For those that disagree, it's like everything else
- ignore it.
I agree. She should not be given a half staff salute. It
goes to the military & its heroes. My dad got a salute
when he died recently, but he was in WW II. She has not.
I whole-heartedly agree wit this!!
I think it NEEDS to stop because when America's military
fallen are deserving of this honor, it will have become so
diluted that it will be meaningless.
Any man or woman who served in the military is more
deserving than Miss Houston. Might as well leave the flag at
half mast permanently.
this is a terrible mistake by the governor who I usually
agree with. This honor should be given to our service men
and woman who have given their lives for our freedom or
someone who has done a great public service for humanity.
I'm sorry for her passing and she was a wonderful
entertainer who had a drug addiction.
I am reading that some think it is because she is African
American that we don't want the flags at half staff for
Whitney Houston. I want to say that I and many others were
also against lowering the flags for Sinatra and Presley. I
feel that honor should be reserved for those who do heroic
deeds or make great contributions to America. I would not
object to Martin Luther King as I am objecting to Whitney
Houston.
I could not agree more. Personally, I will never have a flag
flown for me half staff. There won't be any fly-overs or
even a flag given to my family at my death. These are
choices that I made by not being in the military or a public
servant. I even believe a public servant should only
be honored with a flag for the area they served...city,
county, state or federal.. We have gone too far. A
Governor should ONLY be allowed to lower HIS state flag.
What an insult to every American soldier who has given their
life to protect this great nation.
This is disgusting. she was a pop star for God's sake. She
was no hero, in the true since of the word. She did not put
her life on the line to Protect others. Has Christie done
this for all the military personnel who will "come home" to
New Jersey in a body bag????
Flying the flag at half mast is for heroes not singers. It
is so disrespectful to bestow this honor to a drug abuser.
Christie over stepped his power big time.
Absolutely correct. We've become a nation of
"sensationalistic journalism". More than 2.6 million
Americans died in honor of the American Flag. The USC Code
is very clear regarding proper display. Let's get it
right!!!
I wholeheartedly agree! Our children should be taught about
giving honor to those who deserve it. To dilute the
importance of the lowering the flag for a celebrity teaches
them the wrong thing. They should learn what real honor is
by lowering the flag only for those who served their country
or gave their lives for their country.
For the person that posted the "Read more: http://www.gettysburgflag.com/flyflaghalfmast.php#ixzz1mZAWfABh
" you may want to actually read that portion of the US Flag
Code yourself and tell us where it states anything about
"citizens who have died, etc...". You will find that you
yourself are posting something that you "think" is a fact
but is truly NOT an actual FACT. Get the Code straight,
this is NOT a lawful event to fly the National Flag at
half-staff.
When in NJ in'53 stationed at Ft.Dix, I thought NJ was the
pits. Now I know why!! What a disgrace to the
people of NJ. Hope you vote him OUT
In this country the lowering of our flag is one of the
highest honors we have to recognize those who have in some
heroic way served our Country; mostly through their military
service. I have no malice for Ms. Houston, but she is not
deserving of this sacred honor and I for one will remove my
flag from my flag pole on Saturday rather than fly it at
half staff.
When a government makes a decree that is as egregious as I
believe this to be (yes I am a daughter of a veteran) than
it is our duty to show our displeasure; and we can.
On Saturday February 18, 2012 do not put your flag out.
Individuals, volunteer firehouses, Veteran’s halls, car
dealerships, and any and all of you who hold dear to the
principles of what it means in this country to bow our heads
to those that have served, let your voice be heard.
King Christie can make a decree to cheapen the honor that
the lowered flag brings to mind. Let us honor the true
meaning of our tradition and respect our past. If you do
not put out a flag at all you honor those that so willingly
went forth and truly deserve our respect, admiration and
gratitude.
This is a letter to the editor that I wrote. It has been
denied by 3 papers and removed from NJ.com twice.
I am writing to express my disgust and disappointment in the
media, Governor Christie, and much of society. Since the
news of Whitney Houston's death, it has been the top leading
story in the media. Though Ms. Houston was a celebrity and
in the public eye, her tragedy is no different than the
thousands of people who fall victim to substance abuse
throughout the country. For twenty years or more she battled
substance abuse. Or let me say that is how long the public
knew of her troubles. Now that she has passed it is all the
media seems to care about; making top news even in small
town papers and markets. Everyone is now mourning her loss.
When in reality we should all have mourned the loss of her
talent and potential more than a decade ago. Unfortunately,
in the end the only difference between Ms. Houston and the
thousands that suffer a similar fate, was she had money and
fame. In 2002 she can be quoted as saying "Crack is cheap. I
make too much for me to ever smoke crack. Let's get that
straight, OK? I don't do crack. I don't do that. Crack is
whack." We do not nationally morn every other victim of drug
abuse and she should be no different.
The same day as Ms. Houston's unfortunate death a 20 year
old Marine, Lance Cpl. Osbrany Montes De Oca, of North
Arlington, NJ died heroically defending his country in
Afghanistan. Did this brave young man get even 1/100th of
the publicity or credit as Ms. Houston? Absolutely not. He
was not even on this earth as long as Ms. Houston was a drug
addict and wasting her talent and potential. Was Lance Cpl.
Montes De Oca's truly tragic and heroic death top news
nationally and in every local community? No, and he died for
you and me. How do you think this makes this brave young
man's family feel? By the way he had an identical twin
brother, who also is a US Marine fighting for us in
Afghanistan and another brother also a Marine. I am mourning
Lance Cpl. Montes De Oca, because he gave more to me than
any actor or musician ever has.
Governor Christie has ordered all flags in NJ to be flown at
half mast on Saturday February 18, 2012 in honor of Ms.
Houston. This is a disgrace and a gesture of disrespect to
every fallen soldier, police officer, firefighter, and other
hero this honor is normally bestowed to. The flag of this
country deserves to be flown at half mast for those that
dedicated and gave their lives in the service of their
country, community, and to others. For the men and women in
uniform, both overseas and here at home, certain things are
sacred. For example: a flag draped casket, “Going Home”
being played on the bagpipes, a 21 gun salute, a black band
over a badge, and yes a flag at half mast. It is a symbol of
respect for service and a life lost. I am sure our governor
has never put himself in harm’s way for anyone, let alone a
complete stranger. But for those who have, his ordering
flags be flown at half mast for Ms. Houston is
disrespectful. It will not mean the same if we bestow this
honor to every celebrity that won some awards for acting or
musical talent. I am not saying Ms. Houston does not deserve
respect and to be acknowledged for her musical achievements
and the charity work she has done. But rather she should not
be given the same respect and honor as those who have
sacrificed their lives, often in violent and unthinkable
ways, so that you and I may sleep in peace at night.
I am ashamed Governor Christie, the media, and society are
so thankless and so oblivious to the fact that our brave men
and women here at home and overseas are an afterthought to
many of you. It is time people realize without the men and
women of our military, law enforcement, and fire service
this country would not be what it is today. Without their
sacrifices who knows where we would be as a society and
country. These men and women who make the ultimate sacrifice
do not expect to receive your respect, tears, or
prayers...they just deserve them. And they deserve them way
more than Whitney Houston. So to the family of Lance Cpl.
Montes De Oca, I thank you for your brave sons, their
sacrifice, and your sacrifice. I hope to see many front page
stories about your hero’s remarkable and honorable life, but
I won't be holding my breath.
It is a disgrace. It is disrespectful for all veterans and
those who made the ultimate sacrifice.
This is a travesty. the governor tried to explain his action
as to why he did it but I don't care to hear his reason. He
is completely overlooking her drug addiction and just
summing up her success and that's his final word. He is an
embarrassment to NJ
Lowering the flags to half mast is a travesty and completely
disrespectful to anyone who has ever served in the military.
I am appalled this would even be considered.
I feel the flag should be upside down. This is ridiculous.
I am sick of her name.
Some people are saying that Christie, as governor, is within
his rights. Technically, that may be, but the fact is, what
he is doing is misusing the right. In addition to fallen
heroes, whom people here of course rightly mention, the flag
may rightly be lowered for people who serve the country in
an official capacity, such as governing or serving (not
necessarily dying) in an important police capacity, fire
fighting capacity, etc. Officially serving, not arguably
bringing glory to the state by virtue of singing songs.
This is disgraceful. And as far as people like Rush
Limbaugh, who tout their patriotism all the time, defending
this, that's really disappointing and disgraceful as well.
Thank you for the commentary. You have clearly articulated
why it is inappropriate to fly the flag at half mast for
"social icons".
Bless you. It drives me crazy when people think anyone -
even a very good person - should have the flag flown at half
mast to commemorate him when he dies. Not so! Rush
Limbaugh and many others who should know better are saying
that the governor is right, because - well because they
lowered it long ago for Frank Sinatra. Other people are
saying "It's not illegal, the code is just a code, just
guidance." It may not be illegal, but it is highly
improper, and shame on people who disregard the code just
because they want to do so.
I have a lot of respect for Governor Christie on how he is
turning NJ around. But, the Governor blew this Whitney
Houston flag lowering big time. Our society is in decay when
we start idolizing false gods. celebrities and sports
figures are just what they are. They are not heroes.
Governor, you are disrespecting the American Flag.
Christie is wrong in ordering flags half mast for anything
other than military, dignitaries and people who have help
make our country notorious...Although Houston and other
entertainers, and sports figures may have contributed to our
country it is not in our best interest to fly flags half
mast...and especially since drugs and/or alcohol is involved
with most of these deaths presents a very serious role model
reflection...we should not honor such behavior as young
people try to copy their example and they do not realize
that drugs, alcohol and bad behavior is not proper to
portray as a role model...that is not to say that Houston
contributed to the music with her fabulous voice, and sports
figures did their job well but they do not represent a great
role model otherwise...
I agree!! When we start to lower our great flag for every
well-known person that passes we diminish the honor of
doing so for our service men and women. When a flag is seen
flying at half staff it should cause us to think, "A hero, a
defender of our freedom has passed"
Christie can say that he ordered the flags lowered for all
service men and women killed in Iraq/Afghanistan Conflicts,
but he misses the point...These young men and women
"Contributed" everything they had to their country and their
fellow citizens. They didn't need a contract rider
demanding this and that in order to appear, they didn't need
to be seen, they just wanted to protect their country.
Houston and Clemmons were icons of the music industry, but
these men and women were heroes to their country and an
example to more kids and adults than any entertainer could
ever hope to reach.
It never ceases to amaze me that when a Medal of Honor is
received, it usually doesn't get half the fanfare, ticker
tape parades, or the general acknowledgement that a Super
Bowl, NBA, or World Series Championship gets. Most kids
don't even understand what it means for a flag to be lowered
at half mast.
I'm not going to apologize for this, I am disgusted with
anyone that agrees with our great Governor's opinion.
Anyone who does is spitting on the memory of these brave men
and women.
I am totally against flying flags at half staff for Whitney
Houston addict yes hero no, sick yes hero no, next we will
have Whitney Houston Day...come on people
Half Mass Flag for Whitney Houston was inappropiate.
Its hard to believe, that is a slap in the face to all
military that have given their life's for this country, flag
half mast for dope heads
Lowering of The flag should definitely be reserved for
world/national leaders And those who lost their lives
fighting for our American freedom!
I feel the Governor of The Great State of New Jersey has
gone a little too far. He has ordered all government offices
to lower their flags to half staff in honor of Whitney
Houston. This is an honor reserved for dignitaries, or high
ranking officials. Whitney Houston “was” a great singer and
entertainer, and I love her music, but does she really
deserve that honor? I hope the governor sees fit to be at
the Casualty & Mortuary Affairs Services Center in Fort Dix,
NJ, anytime a plane load of our fallen service member
arrives there to salute and honor them. They did more then
just sing or entertain, they gave their lives so everyone in
he nation, NO, in the world could have freedom.
A gross miss-use of State Honors.
I fully agree . It is disgraceful that Christie does not
honor the people who made the ultimate sacrifice for this
country. Furthermore, I may be wrong but I was always
taught that only the President of the United States of
America has the power to order the United States Flag
lowered. If I am correct then have the Christie lower the
state flag instead.
How dare you disgrace the American flag by wanting to raise
it to half mast on Saturday for Whitney Houston. This will
only lessen the meaning of what our flag stands for. Only a
liberal would do what you're doing. The country is already
falling apart and losing it's real American values and
morals, you don't need to add to it.
I'm already ashamed of NJ because of all the political
corruption and left wing liberal nonsense. We don't care
about Whitney Houston just because she was from NJ. You
should keep you personal agenda, "personal"!
Half mast is a tradition from the Civil war, when we honored
not only our fallen but the fact that we spilled our own
blood over our diverging visions of freedom so Ben Franklin
has nothing to do with it. Half mast is reserved for all
those who gave of themselves to the state, the country, or
the public good. For a conservative republican who says he
supports our troops, I find it confusing that he would have
the audacity to honor someone who gave only to herself with
those who gave all they had to others.
Well said. Let's lower our flags for the true heroes and
heroines.
The questions should be Why is he lowering the flag?
When Benjamin Franklin died - the flag was not lowered half
mast for him.
NJLawman.com Reply: Benjamin
Franklin was the equivalent of the Secretary of State during
the Revolutionary War and almost singlehandedly procured
money and resources from France to help win the war.
I feel this is a vote getting. No other reason. Honor those
who gave something besides a song.
I couldn't have put it better. This Honor should be for
those who have laid their lives on the line for the citizens
of this country. That's it! No exceptions!
Perfectly put. Not only does this cheapen the meaning of why
and for whom the flag is lowered, though it serves as an
insult to the truly deserving. The fact that we're now
"honoring" entertainers (this includes athletes) is
disturbing. In my opinion, this practice is indefensible.
Love your article and agree totally but check the typo -
should be public duty towards the end. You missed an L!
Reply: Got it. Thanks.
I wish people would post facts instead of what they think
facts are:
In addition to the traditional half-staff salutes when
proclaimed by the President, the Flag Code mentions the use
of our Flag for honoring citizens who have died, especially
government officials and prominent citizens. However, the
Flag Code does not exclude any citizen, whether they belong
to an organization or not, whether they are recognized very
locally or regionally. Examples of deceased citizens that
might be honored with by lowering the Flag to half-staff
include local religious leaders, youth leaders, honored
teachers or sports coaches, local politicians, or a local
hero. There need be no authorization from the government for
the private sector (non-government) to use the Flag to honor
any citizen.
Read more:
http://www.gettysburgflag.com/flyflaghalfmast.php#ixzz1mZAWfABh
I totally and completely agree. Flying the flat at
half-mast for celebrities diminishes the meaning of it.
I agree completely! Just because someone is successful
doesn't entitle them to a flag at half staff! This HONOR
should be reserved for fallen heroes and high government
officials who actually gave of themselves for the greater
good of our country. Whitney Houston was highly compensated
for what she did. And in the end, she died of a drug
addiction. Does she deserve the same honor given to a
fallen Marine or U.S. President? I think not! Stop this
craziness now, please!!
Our politicians seem to only care about their own pockets,
and not the few that give them the freedom to be rich. A
perfect example is the 9/11 responders that can not get a
dime to help them with their illness. I will not vote for
anyone ever again who is not an independent.
I agree 110% this is an insult to the men and women who have
given their lives in service of the country and the state. I
was always under the impression that the flag at half staff
was a way to show the nations sorrow for the loss of a hero.
(anyone who gave their life for duty)
Not to lessen the loss of Ms. Houston but what has she done
for the Country or the State!
Every time I see a flag lowered to half-staff, I research to
find out WHY they've been lowered if I missed a news
report. I always say a little prayer for the military
member or first responder who lost their life, thanking them
for their service. I would not be happy if it were my state
who lowered a flag for a celebrity who graced us with their
talent but not with their willingness to sacrifice their all
for our safety. Public recognition of the death is fine,
but flags at half-mast for a celebrity? No way!
Another example of our government getting involved in ALL
aspects of our lives! Maybe if they spent more time
"governing" we wouldn't be in the poor shape we are in as a
country. In my opinion Christie's credibility just took a
nose dive - I don't think he has the intelligence to be our
President!
I agree entirely, where does it stop? I never even heard of
her name until this came up. She sang a song or two?
I think this is a crock of you know what. To display the
flag at half mast for entertainers is disgusting. It's an
insult and disgrace to all veterans and those who have died
performing a service for our country.
Couldn't agree more. When I first heard of this I was
wondering myself but no one seemed to be making a stink.
Glad I'm not the only one thinking this.
